Explain low level hook timeout.

802    Asked by ananyaPawar in Cyber Security , Asked on Mar 30, 2022

 I'm writing a password manager for Windows which I want to protect against keyloggers. There is a timeout of 5000 ms for keyboard hooks. The hook procedure should process a message in less time than the data entry specified in the LowLevelHooksTimeout value in the following registry key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USERControl PanelDesktop
The value is in milliseconds.
(The default value of that Registry key is 5000)

Assuming a password manager running as administrator, could I suspend all programs, simulate typing a key, wait for 5 seconds and then be sure that all keyboard hooks have been disabled by Windows?


I've not found a way of unregistering all hooks via UnhookWindowsHookEx because it requires a handle that I do not have. This is why I'm resorting to unregistering them by timeout.

Answered by Amit verma

Regarding the low level hook timeout, there are three reasons I can see why this assumption is dicey.


  • Hooks are only removed in Windows 7 and above. This is probably the least of your concern, but worth mentioning.
  • The hook is silently removed, and your application has no way of knowing if these actions occurred and/or were successful.
  • So even if your assumption is correct there is no way for you to know that the hooks were removed. Which means you should assume that not all of them have been removed.
  • This only applies to keyboard hooks that have been registered using SetWindowsHookEx

This is the more pressing issue. A lot of malware are not going to use the built-in hooking API. They'll write their own hooks which won't be registered with the OS. Or at an even lower level for key-loggers, they'll be hooking or installing their own system level driver. Which again, will not be registering with the operating system.

Suspending all programs is possible, but again you might not be able to suspend the services that the key-logger is installed as or into. While I think that it's noble of you to try and guard against key-loggers I don't believe it is your responsibility.



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Low Level Hook Timeout refers to a setting or configuration that defines the maximum amount of time a low-level hook procedure can execute. Suppose the hook procedure takes longer than the specified timeout. In that case, the operating system will consider it to be unresponsive and may take corrective actions, such as terminating the hook or the application associated with it. This concept is primarily relevant in the context of Windows programming and system development.

Key Points:

Hooks in Windows:

  • Hooks are mechanisms provided by the Windows operating system that allow applications to intercept and process certain types of events or messages.
  • Low-level hooks are used to monitor and manipulate low-level events like keyboard input (WH_KEYBOARD_LL) or mouse movements (WH_MOUSE_LL).

Purpose of Low Level Hook Timeout:

  • To prevent poorly designed or malfunctioning hook procedures from degrading system performance or causing system instability.
  • Ensures that system responsiveness is maintained by enforcing a time limit on how long a hook procedure can run.

Implementation:

  • Typically configured via registry settings or system policies.
  • Developers must ensure that their hook procedures are efficient and do not exceed the timeout period to avoid being terminated.

Example Usage:

  • If a hook is set to monitor keyboard input and process each keystroke, the Low Level Hook Timeout ensures that each keystroke is processed within a reasonable time frame.
  • If a keystroke processing takes too long, the system will intervene based on the timeout configuration.

Practical Implications:

  • Developers need to be cautious about the complexity and efficiency of their hook procedures.
  • Long-running or blocking operations should be avoided within hook procedures.
  • Proper error handling and performance testing are crucial to ensure that hooks operate within the allowed timeout.

Understanding and properly managing Low Level Hook Timeout is essential for developing robust and responsive applications that interact closely with the Windows operating system at a low level.








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